Thought for today.

[malgpz900]

At what point does a photograph become a processed image?
Definition of a photograph -a picture made using a camera, in which an image is focused on to light-sensitive material and then made visible and permanent by chemical treatment, or stored digitally.
Malcolm.

[Stan]

Re: Thought for today.

Why do you ask ? I suppose if you are shooting jpeg, then as soon as it is saved to the camera memory card as the raw data has been processed by the camera

Stan

[jimsphotography]

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If processing is the manipulation of an image in some form or another then photographs are 'processed' even before they are taken. The photographer may decide to include a car in his/her landscape shot or move to another position to exclude it. I'm told the great Ansel Adams sometimes had helpers fell the odd tree or two to 'improve' his landscape shots. That makes cloning seem a lot more ecologically friendly !
Once the picture is taken of course it is processed in some form or other before we can view it.
Another point - let's face it, we don't 'see' the world outside as it really is as the visual signal which leaves the photo sensitive receptors in our retina is processed to enhance edges and negate inconsistency even before the neural signal has left the eye. Once into the brain proper even more extensive processing takes place so we end up 'perceiving' what the real world represents rather than just the 'seeing' of it.
So even the act of viewing a photograph involves some form of processing.
To ask what an unprocessed photograph looks like is is similar to asking what is the real world like - or indeed what is reality.
James

[Fr1so]

Re: Thought for today.

At what point does a photograph become a processed image?
Definition of a photograph -a picture made using a camera, in which an image is focused on to light-sensitive material and then made visible and permanent by chemical treatment, or stored digitally.
Malcolm.

At that moment you alter something in the original photo.

[digiman]

Re: Thought for today.

Even in the "old days", an image was manipulated in the darkroom to the eye of the person processing it. It's just that we have more options more readily available to us today. So by the premise that it is as soon as you alter the original image, they have all been altered from the beginning of photography.

Garry

[malgpz900]

Re: Thought for today.

Interesting.

[rcarca]

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If you shoot jpeg, which setting to you choose? Natural, intense? if you move of the auto settings, which aperture, speed and ISO settings do you choose? If you use anything other than a 50mm lens (on FF) what focal length are you choosing? All of these are artistic choices. And then in the processing, watch Ansel Adams talk about printing here: http://digital-photography-school.co...y-ansel-adams/. As a very young B&W photographer in the darkroom I used to crop, dodge, burn, push and pull. The fact that I can do it now on my computer is neither here nor there. I took some photographs of my partner yesterday and cloned out some distracting background simply because that was easier to do than to clear the background itself.

In essence a camera takes a processed image based either on the interpretation of an engineer in a Canon (or I believe there are other manufacturers as well) factory, or based on your interpretation. Why should the engineer's choice of settings be superior to yours when he can't even see what you are photographing.

Just a few random thoughts in answer!

Richard

[the black fox]

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i fully agree with richard on this having been there and done that myself ,the darkroom under the stairs was a delight to use ,o god i miss the smell of fixer ,and cloning out was always a part of photography as obtaining a dust free negative was often a hit and miss you usually managed to always damage your best shot if i recall

[rcarca]

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i fully agree with richard on this having been there and done that myself ,the darkroom under the stairs was a delight to use ,o god i miss the smell of fixer ,and cloning out was always a part of photography as obtaining a dust free negative was often a hit and miss you usually managed to always damage your best shot if i recall

Lol - absolutely right!