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    What passes for art today.

    _H8A0018 copy by Ian Wheatley, on Flickr

    Taken on a recent visit to Holdenby House, Northamptonshire. These monstrosities are scattered throughout the gardens.. A blot on the landscape or a late entry to this years Turner Prize? The late Brian Sewell must be spinning in his grave. What were the owners thinking of? Comments welcome. Regards, Ian P.

    #2
    Re: What passes for art today.

    Beauty is subjective but, personally, I have time for modern art and placing it in conjunction with classical architecture, formal gardens or even wilder landscape can be very effective.

    Here, I think a better composition would have shown off the contrast in a more favourable light.

    Cheers,
    John

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      #3
      Re: What passes for art today.

      We will have to agree to differ on this one John but I will have a word with Mr. Lowther to see if he can get the hedge chopped down in time for my next visit. Failing this I don't see how I could have included more of the house, thereby improving the composition. As for bent sheet of metal riveted together passing for art, not for me, but then again lots of people loved Tracys unmade bed, Charles Saatchi for one, who went and paid a small fortune for it. No accounting for taste. Regards, Ian.

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        Ian

        You ask for comments but I think you’ll find that the forum members would prefer to respond about the image rather than their views on its content.
        Personally I like comparisons that make the viewer think. Old and new are ideal subjects. Maybe a better viewpoint would have produced an image to grab the viewer’s attention.

        Art is very subjective!
        Bob


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          I like the contrast of old and new and the way the edge of the sculpture aligns with the edge of the building.

          If it were me I would probably clone out the croquet hoop and seat at the far edge of the lawn...
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            #6
            Re: What passes for art today.

            Ian, I find it strange that you refer to the artwork as a monstrosity but you choose to make an image of it!


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              Did you not get the point I was trying to make Peter? I took this image to exactly illustrate the foolishness of erecting stuff like this in an English country house garden. Holdenby House is steeped in history, well worth a Google. I just feel it deserves better than this tat. Regards, Ian P.

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                Originally posted by Ian Paul View Post
                Did you not get the point I was trying to make Peter? I took this image to exactly illustrate the foolishness of erecting stuff like this in an English country house garden. Holdenby House is steeped in history, well worth a Google. I just feel it deserves better than this tat. Regards, Ian P.

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                  Originally posted by Ian Paul View Post
                  Did you not get the point I was trying to make Peter? I took this image to exactly illustrate the foolishness of erecting stuff like this in an English country house garden. Holdenby House is steeped in history, well worth a Google. I just feel it deserves better than this tat.
                  This is a photographic forum Ian. People post a photograph and then members give their opinions on it. Maybe your post would be more suited to a "what is art ?" forum, rather than the landscape section here.

                  John

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                    #10
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                    I quite like it myself.

                    You can't please everyone, a lot of people don't like the pyramid at the Louvre.
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                      #11
                      Re: What passes for art today.

                      I think I would also have cloned out at least the croquet hoop.

                      Since the image is presumably primarily intended to show the sculpture, I am not sure that the extent of the house visibility is pertinent.

                      Although I am not a great fan of modern "art", I am also aware that the house is now very much marketed as a venue rather than purely a historical location. As such, it needs to continually re-invent itself to attract custom. I assume the sculptures are part of that process and who knows, perhaps the owners put them there because they really, really like them.

                      As far as I can tell, the house belongs to the Lowther family rather than to the Nation, so I am not sure any of us is in a position to tell them what to do with it.
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                        #12
                        Re: What passes for art today.

                        Interesting sculpture. I'm sure there must have been some more interesting and creative angles on it without some tatty old house in the background...
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