EOS M2 announced

[SamFisher]

Just noticed this.
Seems like Canon have beefed up the AF compared to the original EOS M

http://www.engadget.com/2013/12/03/canon-eos-m2-mirrorless-camera/

[Bawbee]

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Mike,

The article seems to concentrate on a faster AF system, I know that the recent firmware update vastly improved the AF of the original. I'll wait for a formal 'official' announcement (from Robert Scott? ).

[SamFisher]

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I read about it on ephotozine this morning.
Surprised it hasn't been mentioned on other sites though

[nickorando]

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Appears it's not coming to Europe (or the US).

[lone pilgrim]

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Yeah, I saw it. Asia only. Pretty underwhelming.

[Robert Scott]

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I read about it on ephotozine this morning.
Surprised it hasn't been mentioned on other sites though

It was on the EOS magazine newsblog yesterday.

http://eos-magazine-news.blogspot.co.uk/

The newsblog is easy to get to from the forum - it is the first link under the 'EOS magazine' heading.

[SamFisher]

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OOPS - Sorry Robert

Mike

[SamFisher]

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Yeah, I saw it. Asia only. Pretty underwhelming.

As underwhelming as the original "M"??

Mike

[nickorando]

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As underwhelming as the original "M"??

Mike

The original is actually a lovely little camera.

[Bawbee]

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The original is actually a lovely little camera.

I agree - but only since the AF was fixed by the firmware upgrade. As the M2 will not be released in the UK/US, I will continue to use my wee EOS

[SamFisher]

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I have to admit to not using an EOS M out in the field but the feel of it and the slow AF just didn't feel right to me when I tried it in the shop.
I'd love to be proved wrong as since back in the days of the A1 I've really enjoyed shooting with Canon cameras.
In the end I bought a Lumix mirrorless camera which I love.

With the firmware upgrade and new lower price of £299 with cashback makes it slightly more attactive.
Are you seeing a big difference in performance since the upgrade Bob?

Mike

[tesarver]

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All I can say is that I love my little M. I use it everyday and it takes wonderful pictures. As a matter of fact I have a daily blog, just using the M. Check out some of the pictures. And the firmware upgrade was a nice improvement, but the AF is still no where near the speed of the 5DMKII.

Tom

[lone pilgrim]

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As underwhelming as the original "M"??

Mike

Haha! No doubt it is capable of taking some great shots, with the right eye behind the camera, but then we're living in an age when great cameras abound, compared to what we were using 3 or 4 years previously. If I was looking to get into a mirroless system, which I was seriously considering a few months ago, my question was - why would I pick the Canon over other manufacturer's cameras?

Canon is a cutting edge camera company and I would have hoped that their foray into the mirrorless camera body world would be more innovative and exciting, especially since they're coming to the game relatively late. Poor AF, lack of electronic viewfinder and few native lenses at launch put me off, plus it wasn't exactly cheap.

Plus points for me were the ability to attach existing canon lenses and retain some AF, the sensor (I have a 550D and I think it's that same sensor which I like even though it's old now), and the fact that it's Canon.

However, the plus points didn't outweigh the negatives for me, and I wasn't convinced that I'd be able to keep using the body for 3+ years without it's features falling further behind the competition.

Given my relative disappointment at the launch then, I was hoping that the EOS M 2 would make another big step forward. Instead we got some WIFI, a modest AF improvement and limited release.

I love Canon gear and I worry that they are getting left behind by Sony, Fuji and Panasonic in this area. I want them to trickle down their awesome DSLR tech into the mirror less system with FF, EVF, better selection of lenses and a decent price. I didn't get any of that and that's why I was underwhelmed.

Great, blog by the way Tom. I love the idea of choosing just one setting for the camera and shooting everything at it. You've obviously got a lot of discipline shooting at that rate too!

[nickorando]

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Lack of an EVF is a major plus to me; I detest them. I've tried several CSC models, but the huge advantages of the M are far more than spec deep. Firstly, it's really genuinely small - with the pancake, very pocketable. That means it's replaced my compact, and provides much better quality. Secondly, the touchscreen interface - it's brilliant. Most similar cameras require a lot of button pressing and take a lot longer to set up for a shot, or at least to switch between settings. It's also very well made, and makes me feel very confident. Lenses? Well yes, there's not a lot of native lenses, but with the EF adaptor, it means I can use it as a backup to my 6D for travelling, and with an FD adaptor and a Leica M adaptor, I can use quite a few alternative old lenses too. But to be honest, most of the time the pancake and 18-55 are sufficient for what I want from this camera anyway - sure, fast wideangle and short tele lenses would be nice, but not essential. But being able to stick my 8-15 L on it makes it far more versatile than any other CSC out there for me. So the sensor's not cutting edge - the reality is that it produces perfectly good results, certainly as good as my alternative backup cameras - which use the same sensor. AF was fairly grim to start with, although easy enough to live with once I got used to it, and is quite respectable now.
I don't want FF mirrorless, I think it's an idiotic idea when you can have a proper DSLR - the M is actually the closest thing to what I do want. The M2 actually looks closer (even smaller, WiFi, improved AF), but I suspect the M3 when it turns up, with a dual pixel sensor etc will be pretty close to it. In the meantime, I expect to be more than happy with the M for some time to come. I am glad I didn't pay full price for it, though!

[George Bear]

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This is developing into an interesting thread. I do wonder how well the M sold in the EU and US as this may be the reason the M2 is apparantly not (initially) being made available in these regions. The Asia area seem a lot more smitten by mirrorless interchangeable lens cameras than elsewhere (if the various press and pundits are correct).

So anyone thought about small and gone 100D or M or indeed jumped ship?