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    Flash stoped working

    I've been using the 430 mk2 flash on my 60D.
    Tonight I tried to use the built in flash but it would not pop up (either auto or manualy) .
    In the menu( built in flash) its saying an external flash is attatched which clearly its not.I have removed the battery and refited and the 430 on and off but it still thinks the external flash is fitted thus stoping the internal flash firing .
    A software fault or not?
    I have loaded the latest firmware so it s not that.
    Any thoughts ?
    Last edited by stormbringer; 11-03-2011, 23:55.
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    #2
    Re: Flash stoped working

    Sounds as if it has got confused. My first move would be to take both batteries out of the camera (assuming the 60D has two) and leave them out overnight.
    Cheers

    Oggie

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      #3
      Re: Flash stoped working

      There is a small switch in the hotshoe which is pressed down when an accessory is attached. This stops the built-in flash activating when, for example, you have a Speedlite in the accessory shoe. It is not uncommon for this switch to stay in the down position when the Speedlite is removed. This makes the camera think that the Speedlite is still attached.

      It is usually possible to release the switch by prodding it with a pin or needle. It helps to have a bright light and a small magnifier to see what you are doing.

      On the EOS 60D the pin is on the right side of the shoe (viewing the shoe from the rear of the camera). It's about half way along, under the sprung piece of metal. It's not always easy to see, but it is there.
      Robert
      robert@eos-magazine.com

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        #4
        Re: Flash stoped working

        Thank you Robert ,its now working again.
        John

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          #5
          Re: Flash stoped working

          It is usually possible to release the switch by prodding it with a pin or needle. It helps to have a bright light and a small magnifier to see what you are doing.

          On the EOS 60D the pin is on the right side of the shoe (viewing the shoe from the rear of the camera). It's about half way along, under the sprung piece of metal. It's not always easy to see, but it is there.
          That sounds like a pain in the neck to me, it seems pretty grim that a camera that utilizes the built in flash as wireless commander would have this problem. Was it a one off, isolated incident ??? The fact the Robert knows about this issue makes alarm bells ring.

          This would be enough to make me rule this camera out, when I replace my 30D in April. Photography is hard enough sometimes, without havng to resort to pins and magnifiers.

          It's too early to talk about emabarrasing recalls just yet, but cause for concern imho

          Trev
          Last edited by Trevoreast; 14-03-2011, 12:02.

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            #6
            Re: Flash stoped working

            I think it is always best for someone to buy a tried and tested camera rather than plonk for the new one as it comes off the production line. I have not heard much problems with the 50d for example. Is there a moral somewhere down the line?
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              #7
              Re: Flash stoped working

              Originally posted by Trevoreast View Post
              This would be enough to make me rule this camera out, when I replace my 30D in April. Photography is hard enough sometimes, without havng to resort to pins and magnifiers.Trev
              This micro switch has been a feature of every EOS with built-in flash since 1987. It can get stuck occasionally, especially if you don't use hot-shoe accessories very often. It's obviously not a major problem, or more people would be aware of it. Personally, I'm all in favour of repairs which can be done with pins and magnifiers - much cheaper than using a service centre. Yes, it would be even better if nothing ever went wrong with anything we bought, but that's not going to happen any time soon.
              Robert
              robert@eos-magazine.com

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                #8
                Re: Flash stoped working

                Personally, I'm all in favour of repairs which can be done with pins and magnifiers - much cheaper than using a service centre.
                I’m thinking about working and disruption.
                I’ve got my flashgun on camera and I decide I want to use it off camera with the wireless, but first I need to find my pin,magnifier, and a torch if it’s dark, I can’t see that working for me at all.

                That’s why I asked if it was a “one off, isolated incident”.
                Trev

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                  #9
                  Re: Flash stoped working

                  It could happen to any eos pop up flash ,the only way for it not to happen is to buy a pro modle without the pop up flash.
                  This happend after I had removed the 430 for the first time and has been ok since.
                  John

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