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  • SpringfieldPhoto
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    Final thought:
    Having borrowed an R5 for 2 days.
    R6 - 9 out of 10 - I still hate the EVF
    R5 - 8 out of ten - Too expensive with more pixels that are necessary and the EVF is still horrible
    5D MkIV - 10 out of 10 - That was my score when I got the first one and I still say that overall it is a nicer camera to use and provides excellent results.

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  • SpringfieldPhoto
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    A further update. I have taken around 7,000 images with the R6 now in various situations. My conclusions are:
    1. Image quality - Excellent. I have absolutely no problem with image quality. 20mp is quite enough for most purposes and the dynamic range and low light performance is very good.
    2. Auto focus - Very good but there are some circumstances where it can fail. Once you are ware of these it is easy to avoid the problem.
    3. Handling - The camera is well laid out and controls are very easy to use. The menus follow the usual Canon format and are easy to follow.
    4. Build Quality - The camera is very well made and has the usual Canon feel but considering the price, there is too much plastic unlike the Nikon.
    5. EVF - OK in general use but extremely annoying in the studio. Overall, I dislike EVFs, still prefer an optical viewfinder. The so called 'advantages' don't impress me.
    6. Overall - The R6 is a very good camera, and well worth buying. My views on the EVF are personal and related to the range of photography that I do.
    Last edited by SpringfieldPhoto; 15-08-2021, 22:50.

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  • SpringfieldPhoto
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    A few pictures
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  • SpringfieldPhoto
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    As many regulars will know, I do much of my photography in my studio, so today I took the plunge and did a shoot almost entirely with the R6. It was a complex shoot involving several different lighting techniques and a lot of different camera setups. In total I took 779 pictures so I really gave the beast a damned good thrashing.. So what do I think after my marathon shoot?
    1- Image Quality - No problems here at all. The images were sharp, Dynamic range was good and noise levels were excellent, even when I pushed beyond the ISO 12,800 point.
    2. Handling - This was a more mixed bag. I like the control layout and find the three wheels very easy to operate. The vari-angle screen allowed me to take several shots that would have been much more difficult with the 5D 4s.
    However there are some bad points,
    The EVF is awful in the studio as all the colours looked weird. This is because the camera's white balance is set for my studio flash (5,600 K) but the only light while setting the shots is tungsten modelling lights, The model looked like Tango man in the EVF. Image preview has to be turned off as the camera is operating in full manual mode and has no communication with the flash. TTL flash wouldn't overcome this as creative studio photography involves making value judgments of the setting for lights and the camera.
    It is far too easy to accidentally move the focus point.
    Finally the hot shoe is lower than on the DSLRs which means that in portrait mode my nose is pressed against the radio trigger which rather uncomfortable.
    3. Overall - I enjoyed using the camera and the results (examples of which I will be uploading to the site), were very good. The positives far outweigh the negatives.
    Will I be rushing out to sell my 5D4s, not a chance.
    Am I pleased with my R6, yes, very pleased
    Am I off to buy loads of RF lenses. No. For the present I get the quality I want from the EF fit lenses I already own and the handling of the R6 with these lenses attached via an adapter is absolutely fine.

    The R6 is a fine camera and it is inevitable that mirrorless cameras with eventually replace DSLRs. I don't, personally, see this as an amazing advance in photography but more a way for manufacturers marketing departments to convince us that the new cameras solve problems we didn't know we had (BTW the computer industry has bee successfully doing that for years). My photography will not be improved by changes in technology. It never has been in the past and this latest change in the technology will be no different. All of the pictures I took today could have been taken with a DSLR. Not one required IBIS or lens IS. In fact until I bought my Sigma 70-200 18 months ago, I had never used IS. and given the amazing ISO performance of modern cameras I am far from convinced that many photographers really need it. Still the marketing gurus tell us we do and they must be right as without all this hype, the camera industry will slowly slip into oblivion, superseded by the smartphone.
    With that thought I bow to the inevitable and wish you all 'happy snapping'. and if you want a really good mirrorless camera, I can thoroughly recommend the R6.
    Last edited by SpringfieldPhoto; 24-07-2021, 19:01.

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  • El Sid
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    Fact of the matter is numbers sell - the bigger the number the more marketing departments get excited and lots of megapixels appear to count far more than big ISO numbers... For years I managed quite happily with the 10Mp on my 40D - TBH I'd still be quite happy with my 80D if it only 10MP but the much better ISO performance of it's modern sensor/processor combo...

    I one got a a picture in the magazine with my D30 - and that has a measly 3.2Mp. It still works even now.

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  • SpringfieldPhoto
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    Those poor professional photographers have been managing with around 20-22mp for years and paying 5,000 plus for the privilege. Picture quality is not about pixel count alone but is a combination of factors. The argument will continue, no doubt, but I will continue to buy the spec that suits the way I work and that will not be based on pixel count. Some of my best competition pictures were shot on a 10D with just 6mp. When I got my 5D with a massive 12mp sensor, I thought it was Xmas and New year rolled into one. I have been able to afford high pixel count cameras but they have never impressed me.

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  • AndyMulhearn
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    The R5 vs R6 discussion is similar to the one when the Nikon Z6 and Z7 first appeared. The Z6, which I still own and my wife is eying for a trial, has half the pixel count of the Z7 but is a way better all round camera. I’m not sure why that should be the case but maybe it’s not having to move as many pixels or those pixels being bigger and hence iq is better.

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  • SpringfieldPhoto
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    Went out and did some landscapes. I have seen the comment made that the R5 is the camera for landscapes due to the high pixel count. I do wonder why! Unless you Pixel peek, extreme crop or print at some enormous size, 20mp is more than enough. The image quality of the R6 is excellent, the noise level is very low, colour rendition is first class. I have dropped 10mp compared to my 5D 4s and I am very satisfied. I had sort of hoped that the continual pixel war had come to and end but clearly it still rages on. I don't see the need for 45mp. I looked at the R5 and dismissed it as having nothing to offer over the R6.. I wanted a good stills camera that could do the occasional short burst of video. The R6 fits that description.

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  • davcoll
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    Personal reviews are far are more useful to me rather than from people with maybe a commercial interest involved.

    Many thanks.

    Dave

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  • AndyMulhearn
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    An interesting thread, thanks for the updates.

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  • SpringfieldPhoto
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    Further work in the studio has thrown up an interesting problem with the R6. There are certain situations when it will not focus. This is irrespective of the lens fitted. It's due to the subject matter and the underlying technology of the focusing system. The 5D 4s will focus when using the viewfinder but will also fail in live view which is where they are using the same technology as the R6. A second problem occurred on a location shoot using ambient light and flash mixed. Several images were under exposed despite the flash firing. The camera can be confused on occasions, depending on the subject matter and pass incorrect information to the flash (580 EX II).
    I shall continue to explore the options and see if I can work round these problems. I still like the camera and do see it as a good long term choice.
    Last edited by SpringfieldPhoto; 07-07-2021, 15:27.

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  • SpringfieldPhoto
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    After overcoming my initial handling problems, thanks to the excellent advice of lunarbo, I have taken lots of pictures. I was pleased to find that Canon have maintained the same menu structure as the DSLRs. In fact I have had to make little reference to the manual in order to use the camera. I have got it set up to suit my way of working and I now feel confident using it. Personally, I don't find the exposure simulation useful for much of my photography, too many years not having it and often using the camera in a studio make it unnecessary but I can see that many people would find it useful. The control layout is very good and I actually find it easier than my 5D Mk IVs. The EVF is very much better than previous ones that I have seen and the power saving mode works for most situations but I have switched to smooth mode when tracking moving targets. I thought I would miss the top plate display, but I haven't. The viewfinder information display is excellent.

    Working in the studio with studio flash or fixed lights is fine although I do slightly prefer the 5D Mk IVs in this situation. Loosing 10 mp isn't a problem as I am not one those people that craves a massive number of pixels. I have always maintained that 20 mp is about right for most photography. The performance of this particular sensor is very good indeed. Noise is very well controlled and the images are very good with excellent dynamic range.

    Despite my initial reservations, I have to say that this is a very good camera. I do feel, however, that the prices of lenses and accessories for the R system are excessive.
    Last edited by SpringfieldPhoto; 04-07-2021, 14:11.

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  • SpringfieldPhoto
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    I will report further on the camera after I have taken more pictures. I am intending to use it on a shoot in the studio next week which will show how easy or difficult it is to live with in full manual mode in a studio with studio flash.

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  • @imagesBV
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    I’ll set that too….thanks Bo!

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  • lunarbo
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    Y’re welcome

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