To PP or not to PP - that is the question!

[colin C]

Re: To PP or not to PP - that is the question!

I am the one without the beard, from Cheshire. Brian is the gentleman with the beard, from Kent.

He, he. I am the one with the hat, from Dorset.

Colin

[codachrome]

Re: To PP or not to PP - that is the question!

Am I hearing this right.....Digital cameras,computors.and photoshop are just tools we use...we all have the choice on what we do with our images...how many film users developed there own colour prints or even processed slides?..I did and i hated every dark moment.The smell of the cemicals the waiting for the final image ect; all added to me sending all my print and slide films off for someone eles to play around with.We now have complete controll of every step in producing an image we are happy with.Its called progress...lets not dwell in the past..lets use every tool that we can to get a great image.I for one will.And now look forward to what the future holds for us photographers....I hope I have not upset anyone.

[Millie]

Re: To PP or not to PP - that is the question!

Maybe we could have a section for people to show off their heavily shopped images. ?

Heavily shopped images sometimes get the same reaction on photography forums, that divorced transvestites get in Miss World competitions.

I don't really care, I'm just showing off my abilty to coin original phrases in a world full of clichés LOL

Millie

[ATDigital]

Re: To PP or not to PP - that is the question!

Just to chuck my Hat, Beard, Bare chin into the mix,

Surely whether in a competition or not, it is the resulting image that is judged, viewed, loved, hated, analysed and rated, not the process or equipment used to get it to the point where the photographer feels it is worthy of entry or display. After all beauty is in the eye of the viewer.

However documentary, news etc is a completely other ball game .....

Just my thoughts

Regards Tony

[Les McLean]

Re: To PP or not to PP - that is the question!

It's one of these perennial discussions, with plenty of steam without any resolution (or agreement).

I spend a lot of time in photoshop but very little time photoshopping my images, mainly because I enjoy it (a dry darkroom) , also because I think if an image is anything like, then it's worth spending some time fine tuning it.

My biggest pet hates at the moment come from both sides of the PP spectrum, on one side I find HDR images and portraits where the skin has been softened so much they look like waxworks dummies, both to be particularly ghastly.

On the other side of the coin the words 'straight from camera' fill me with dread , as if no post processing at all is some kind of badge of honour, when often a little post processing would improve the image no end.

[jhdee]

Re: To PP or not to PP - that is the question!

Maybe we could have a section for people to show off their heavily shopped images. ?

Heavily shopped images sometimes get the same reaction on photography forums, that divorced transvestites get in Miss World competitions.

I don't really care, I'm just showing off my abilty to coin original phrases in a world full of clichés LOL

Millie

There's a seat waiting for you in the EOS Pub:tongue:

jhdee

[Nathaniel]

Re: To PP or not to PP - that is the question!

Maybe we could have a section for people to show off their heavily shopped images. ?

Millie

I think this would be a good idea.Heavily shopped images are not photography in my book. It is like Damian Hurst putting sharks,sheep etc in formalin and call it as "Art".To me there are 3 types ofphotographers (i) ones who captures the image in camera (ii) ones who captures the image in Raw and makes small adjustments in PP (iii)ones who like to create photographic images by bringing blue skies, the moon and sun when there was none of these in the original photogragh. I therefore agree with Millie that there should be a separate section for people to show off their heavily shopped images via PP.

P.S Shame Millie that you removed your Avatar. Made a refreshing change from the different "hatted,bearded, masked" faces on the forum!

[Millie]

Re: To PP or not to PP - that is the question!

to me there are 3 types of photographers

Nathaniel I think you’re over simplifying with your three types of photographer ?

There's a seat waiting for you in the EOS Pub

Ok Jhdee, you get a round in and I'll be there later, mine's is a large V and T, just ice - no slice. :-)
Millie

[Nathaniel]

Re: To PP or not to PP - that is the question!

Yes, Millie. I have over simplified as it seems the easiest, without going into all the other myriads of the different types. Too confusing and I get lost on the way!

[Woolley]

Re: To PP or not to PP - that is the question!

Nathaniel I think you’re over simplifying with your three types of photographer ?

I'd agree with the number but not the definitions: Good, bad or inbetween. PP is just another tool which in the right hands can be good and in others, bad. I prefer PP to enhance or adjust, but not to deceive. On the other hand, I'd suggest a bad photograph won't be helped by processing any more than a a bad photographer is helped by better equipment.

[Zed one]

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I am in favor of PP to enhance a picture but against it to remove/input somthing.I look at pictures as being a moment in time caught on camera and not a few pictures stuck together,dont get me wrong I have spent a few hours putting together a collection of photos into just one but thats just what they are a PP image and not a photo and I would never try to pass them off as anything else.
Many people spent loads of time setting up a shot ie:right place/back ground,good lighting,subject etc.is that bad as well?

[EOS_Jim]

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If you want your images to look their best a certain amount of work will be required. If you want to create great images, the same applies. this may mean removing small blemishes or other things or it may not. I do what I feel is required. i try not to over photoshop mages but many have plugins to smooth or blur parts of an image, remove spots on a client's face and reduce wrinkles . In a landscape I may remove a bit of rubbish on the ground or remove a dust spot from the camera.....

I would disagree that there is a difference. post processed or not people make images. Photography is an art.