Photoshop Elements 11

[Tigger]

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No one has mentioned that when you import into LR, the original thumbnail is a JPEG (at least that is my understanding) so the process of sifting through the keepers takes the same time whether shooting RAW or jpeg. I must agree with most of what Ian says though re saving shots. You can shoot a in RAW, and save what appears to by a completely black image, where as JPEG would be a struggle at best. It took me a while to change over to RAW, but, no looking back now!

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I didn't know that, just assumed LR they were small Raw images

[digiman]

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I didn't know that, just assumed LR they were small Raw images

As I say, it is my understanding, but I could very well be wrong

[Dave61]

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Thanks Ian on the comp answer

[AndyMulhearn]

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I didn't know that, just assumed LR they were small Raw images

My understanding also is that each raw file has a small jpeg embedded into it. That's what you see as thumbnails in Finder or Explorer depending on what OS you use.

Out of interest, there's a piece of software called exiftool that you can use to extract these jpegs to upload. Sort of like taking raw and jpeg but without saving the jpeg separately...

[digiman]

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Thanks Ian on the comp answer

Just bare in mind, that the comp will be a processed image for posting. To export from any program, the image needs to be changed from RAW to jpeg or another non RAW file type. This will be a part of your processing workflow though, so nothing to worry yourself about

[digiman]

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Out of interest, there's a piece of software called exiftool that you can use to extract these jpegs to upload. Sort of like taking raw and jpeg but without saving the jpeg separately...

Thanks for that tip Andy

[AndyMulhearn]

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No problem Garry

[Tigger]

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thanks for explaining that Andy

[Robert Scott]

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The advice coming out of this thread is that you should shoot RAW, take hundreds of images in the hope that some of them will be acceptable and not worry too much about exposure as this can be corrected in post-processing.

An alternative is to experiment with Picture Style and other camera settings so that JPEGs give the quality you want, concentrate on composing the image before pressing the shutter button and learn how to expose correctly.

Both are perfectly good methods of working and I would hesitate to recommend one over the other without first knowing more about a photographer and what they wish to achieve. However, I would venture to suggest that the second method will teach you more about photography and is a good way to start for a newcomer to EOS cameras.

[Tigger]

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thanks for explaining that Andy I presume thats how you see images on the screen

[Tigger]

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The advice coming out of this thread is that you should shoot RAW, take hundreds of images in the hope that some of them will be acceptable and not worry too much about exposure as this can be corrected in post-processing.

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no thats not the case - its about offering you more control when processing the image

[digiman]

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Both are perfectly good methods of working and I would hesitate to recommend one over the other without first knowing more about a photographer and what they wish to achieve. However, I would venture to suggest that the second method will teach you more about photography and is a good way to start for a newcomer to EOS cameras.

Fair comment Robert! But, I would say that the control RAW images gives you without any extra work in processing is the main advantage.

I would further say that shooting in both RAW and JPEG is the better way for a newb to start. This gives the settings on the camera and a nice raw image to play with on import

[Dave61]

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Well I did Raw+Jpeg, got them on the laptop and had a quick look in DDP 4 and wow that is something else. It will show the AF Points which was an ouch for me lol, but I am looking forward to trying to learn with it.

[Dave61]

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The advice coming out of this thread is that you should shoot RAW, take hundreds of images in the hope that some of them will be acceptable and not worry too much about exposure as this can be corrected in post-processing.

An alternative is to experiment with Picture Style and other camera settings so that JPEGs give the quality you want, concentrate on composing the image before pressing the shutter button and learn how to expose correctly.

Both are perfectly good methods of working and I would hesitate to recommend one over the other without first knowing more about a photographer and what they wish to achieve. However, I would venture to suggest that the second method will teach you more about photography and is a good way to start for a newcomer to EOS cameras.

Hi Robert where on my 70D is Picture style ? Just found it now

[Dave61]

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As I want to really learn about the 70D settings I am going to leave Raw for a bit. Get my head round all the settings and how I can use them, then once I am happy with how it all works then I will try Raw, but my main thing is to learn the settings first and what can be done